{"cards":[{"_id":"440470cdb6ee41a92500006b","treeId":"440470dcb6ee41a925000069","seq":21658844,"position":1,"parentId":null,"content":"## Ryzen build considerations: (prices in SGD)"},{"_id":"440470a1b6ee41a92500006c","treeId":"440470dcb6ee41a925000069","seq":21659348,"position":1,"parentId":"440470cdb6ee41a92500006b","content":"2020 Ryzen build considerations:\n\n(Prices parts retail. All New )\n\nTheory crafting starter PC builds:\n\n- $700 budget work/very-light-gaming PC in 2020: \n - Ryzen 3 3300x, GTx 1050 2gb\n- $800 budget work/light-mid-gaming PC in 2020: \n - Ryzen 3 3300x, Rx 580 8gb\n- $800 mid-range workstation and very-light-gaming PC in 2020: \n - Ryzen 5 3600, GTx 1050 2gb\n- $900 budget light gaming PC and mid-range workstation PC in 2020: \n - Ryzen 5 3600, Rx 570 4gb\n\nFor efficient work of the type of multimedia/programming stuff I do, minimum starting 16GB RAM and 480GB to 512GB SSD disk space should be used for all builds as an ideal. Also 4 cores and 8 threads minimum.\n\nFor light gaming/work builds, PPU was a consideration (integrated graphics), but generally low-end gaming GPU offers was running quite cheap nowadays and I also do 3D-related work that would still benefit from a dedicated GPU without affecting CPU. For at least 8 threads, a Ryzen 3 3400G with integrated Vega 11 graphics isn't any cheaper compared to a combo of CPU/affordable budget equivalent GPU which still gives you an overall better build. (at least, at the time of buying)\n\nIn terms of bang for buck, a 3300x build would be actually better nevertheless especially since global prices of 3300x had remained consistent (and is low in Singapore), compared to 3600 that had been rising somewhat due to supply shortage.\n\n- With the cost of a cpu/gpu running only a bit hotter internally, $800 work/light-mid gaming build would have had been the best value for money for budget gaming.\n- $700 fits minimum work desktop needs and provides the best value for money if gaming is not that important.\n- $900 improves the PC by leaning it more towards workstation but still has some light gaming capabilities from 2020. (or $860 build for minimum PSU wattage of 450 watts instead). However, the overall performance when it comes to general work tasks isn't any much significantly better compared to the $700 build.\n- A $800 mid-range workstation build with little emphasis on gaming (by 2020) may be of good value for some. However, the overall performance when it comes to general work tasks isn't any much significantly better compared to the $700 build."},{"_id":"44045458b6ee41a92500006d","treeId":"440470dcb6ee41a925000069","seq":21659360,"position":4,"parentId":"440470cdb6ee41a92500006b","content":"# Epilogue\n\nGot a $900 build.\n\n- $55: CASE: Tecware Forge M Chassis\n- $125: MB: AsRock B450m Pro 4 motherboard (unforeseen had to get Steel Legend motherboard for $20 more due to out of stock)\n- $280: CPU: Ryzen 5 3600\n- $86: RAM: Vengence LPX C15 3000MHZ Ram Dual-kit 2x8GB\n- $86: Storage: Silicon Power 512GB Gen3x4 M2 NVME p34a80( red one)\n- $125: PSU: Corsair CX650M Bronze (gray one)\n- $160: GPU: Aorus Pro Rx 570\n\nTotal: $917\n\nRuns smooth, cool and silent even on high loads. Boots OS near instantly. Runs smooth installs/reads and writes.\n\n### Total extra spent margin outside of a $700 budget (+$240 to $273(skimp))\n\n\n- +$40 more on adding +400 watts to PSU (for a 650W instead of 450W for more expandability)\n- +$20 more on M2 NVME SSD instead of regular SATA SSD\n- +$33 more on a better B450m, Motherboard instead of A320m (which would still require buying fan splitters),\n(excludes unforeseen +$20 more on a better/better B450m motherboard due to unavailable stock)\n\nExtra CPU spending: \n- +$100 more on Ryzen 3600 instead of 3300x\n(Wish could find a better price for 20 to 30 bucks less but this better mid-range Ryzen 3600 CPU was in short supply at that time and troublesome to get it via Carousell meets/waits.)\n\nExtra GPU spending:\n- +$80:\nGot a largely better GPU at 4gb for $160 for roughly 80 bucks more, even though by today's 2020 gaming standards it can now be considered a low end gaming GPU instead. This was in comparison to an offer on Amazon for a largely not-so good GPU card at 2gb (at great value half price at ~$82) which eventually skyrocketed price due to 1 remaining stock, making the Rx570 still a better choice. \n\n______________\n\n\nLowest possible spend without skimping on motherboard and general quality of PSU , RAM and SSD, but everything according to existing needs only: $680\n\n_______________\nTotal budget possibilty range from: $647 to $920\n\n\n$920 build with \n\nIs the extra $220 (excluding +$20 for M2 NVME) worth it? These were spent on:\n\n- A better GPU with nearly 2x better benchmarked performance for gaming (+$80)\n- Ryzen 5 3600, +2 Cores + 4 threads, double L3 cache for a hexa-core CPU instead of a quad-core for better performance for certain workstation apps (that i don't particularly use atm, where a Ryzen 3 3300x would had sufficed) (+$100)\n- +200W extra Power supply wattage to allow for more expansion while ensuring consistent power effeciency and quietness regardless of CPU/gaming usage. (even at 100% CPU usage) (+$40)\n\nA similar build (but quadcore instead of hexa-core cpu such as a Ryzen 5 3600) and lower end Gpu, could have gone for $220 savings, for a $700 build system which still gives similar performance for non-gaming tasks, unless the applications being used are significantly multi-threaded. \nOr alternatively, $100 could be saved by keeping to a quadcore system Ryzen 3 3300x only, which could have been used to get a better GPU offer with the current PSU for significantly better gaming performance for a $800 build. \n\nSummary difference between 2 machine types to cost (2017 to 2020):\n- around $900 : Midrange gaming PC in 2017, Mid range workstation in 2020, light gaming PC in 2020\n- around $700: Low-to-mid end gaming PC in 2017, Mid range desktop-only work PC in 2020\n\n"}],"tree":{"_id":"440470dcb6ee41a925000069","name":"Epilogue PC build Ryzen","publicUrl":"epilogue-pc-build-ryzen"}}