{"cards":[{"_id":"45f7edd93b029c8a1f00005c","treeId":"45f7f24e3b029c8a1f000057","seq":21463098,"position":0.5,"parentId":null,"content":"## Old PC (\"ancient\") ~2005\nIn Mum's old office (storage space) at Chin Swee Road, Manhattan house. Anything worth salvaging? I'm probably going to get the monitor/keyboard/mouse though.\n\n- Not sure what motherboard, socket probably won't fit any current generation AMD CPUs or RAM\n- AMD Athlon X2 core 2 duo\n- Some NVIDIA Geforce card i can't remember.. bah\n- 4GB RAM (not sure what type, DDR2?)\n- Windows XP\n- The fan/Power supply..?\n- The CHAASSIS!?? \n\nLikely, an \"upgrade\" is highly unlikely if that means replacing almost everything..."},{"_id":"45f78a623b029c8a1f00005f","treeId":"45f7f24e3b029c8a1f000057","seq":21463001,"position":0.75,"parentId":null,"content":"# Current needs/budget\n\n## Type of applications:\n\n- Programming/work related; Slack, Web browsing, , Visual Studio Code, Visual Studio 2017/2019, other ides, NodeJS server, etc. \n\n- Multimedia related: Spark AR, Audacity, Photoshop,, etc. \n\n- Game/coding related: Unity, Steam, Games (PUBG/Fortnight, ARMA3, DOTA2, CS-go, X-Com 2, etc.)"},{"_id":"45f7f17c3b029c8a1f00005a","treeId":"45f7f24e3b029c8a1f000057","seq":21463039,"position":1,"parentId":null,"content":"## New/Custom PC Setup\n\nAt $1000 with a good sale offer or Build from scratch? Or, able to drop down to (potentially likely around $700 good sale offer) for a slightly less \"gamey\" system.\n\n### CPU\nAMD Ryzen 5 is good enough for me. Or I5 10th generation. I7 not too necessary. However, don't mind scaling it down to Ryzen 3 or I5 9th in some case based on the work that I do.\n\n4 cores, 8 threads is good enough for me. However, I don't mind having 6 cores, 12 threads, or something like 6 cores 6 threads, etc.\n\n### Video Card\nSomething like Geforce GTX 1650 is more than good enough for me. But even then a lower grade Geforce gtx 1050 is still fine for less-heavy/competitive gaming ( an achievable 60 fps is good enough for me, even if it means lowering stuff to med/low for some types of games.\n). \nEven mobile/integrated GPU performance like AMD Radeon vega 8 is fine by me as long as settings are at medium or low for specific types of games. Even then, this would border around 40 fps territory for certain cases which might not be ideal.\n\nHowever, if I do wish to run Spark AR software though (for work), it requires at least (Intel HD Graphics 4000 / Nvidia GeForce 710 / AMD Radeon HD 6450) video cards.\n\n### RAM: \n8GB DDR RAM is more than good enough for me.\n\n## New Laptop? (probably not worth it)\n\nEquivalent Mid-level gaming laptops have their price sale offers around $1400 to $1800. \n\nSo, it's around potentially 50% percent to 80% more of cost when it comes to getting PORTABILITY at the expense of slightly less powerful components as mobile hardware counterparts are slightly weaker compared to their desktop equivalents. Not forgetting hardly much upgradability."},{"_id":"45f7d0833b029c8a1f00005d","treeId":"45f7f24e3b029c8a1f000057","seq":21594752,"position":2,"parentId":"45f7f17c3b029c8a1f00005a","content":"## Sample PC (mid level gaming system): ~$1000 sale offer price (worth it)?\n\nThe shells and misc:\n\n- Gamemax Fortress ATX casing\n- Power Supply : 500 Watts\n- A320M Motherboard (Supports 4K HDMI)\n\nKey specs:\n- AMD Ryzen 5 3500, 3.8GHZ, 4 cores, 8 threads\n- CPU Cooler: Ryzen WRAITH COOLER\n- 16GB DDR4 RAM (ie. 2X 8GB)\n- Primary Storage: 480GB M.2 SSD\n- Geforce GTX 1650 Super\n\nOperating System:\n- Windows 10 Home 64 bits (installed but exclude key)\n\n\n"},{"_id":"45f74e0c3b029c8a1f000060","treeId":"45f7f24e3b029c8a1f000057","seq":21467783,"position":1,"parentId":"45f7d0833b029c8a1f00005d","content":"## Equilavent of sample PC (excluding shell):\n\nThe board and misc peripherials\n\n- **$90** A320M Motherboard (Supports 4K HDMI)\n- **$20** potential misc peripherals (wires connectors/etc.)\n- **$60 to 75** PSU\n\nKey specs:\n\n- **$184 to 236** (Similart to) AMD 0Ryzen 5 3500, 3.8GHZ, 4 cores, 8 threads\n- Ryzen WRAITH COOLER typically included with CPU\n- **$75 to 90** 16GB DDR4 RAM (ie. 2X 8GB)\n- **$64** Primary Storage: 480GB M.2SSD\n- **$230 to 275** Geforce GTX 1650 Super\n\n\n_________\n\n\n(excluding chassis) Probably save between 185 to 300 dollars for custom manual build vs 1000 bucks?\n\nIf buy a new chassis: - **$50 to 150**\n \nthat means save only between *85 to 200* dollars for a similar system if a new chassis is bought as well?"},{"_id":"45f69c0b5ce5110cb900005d","treeId":"45f7f24e3b029c8a1f000057","seq":21463012,"position":3,"parentId":"45f7f17c3b029c8a1f00005a","content":"### Other similar ranged offers at $1000\n\n- Model: HAWK1660S-R5 (9th Edition)\n- Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 (4.1GHZ / 6 Cores 6 Threads)\n- Memory (RAM): 8GB DDR4-2666 ( 1x8GB)\n- Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce GTX 1650 Super\n- Motherboard: A320M\n- Primary Storage: 256GB SSD\n- Chassis: Armaggeddon Tesseract Core 3\n- Power Supply Unit: Armaggeddon Voltron Pro 475X\n- CPU Cooling System: AMD On Stock\n- Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut\n- Chassis Fans: Armaggeddon Neuron Ring IV x 1\n- Wifi: None (Lan Cable Compatible)\nOperating System: Windows 10 Home 64 Bit (Unactivated)\n- Service: 3 Years Part warranty. 1-year Onsite collection."},{"_id":"45f648db5ac675512e00005d","treeId":"45f7f24e3b029c8a1f000057","seq":21467274,"position":4,"parentId":"45f7f17c3b029c8a1f00005a","content":"## Summary\n\nSeems like potentially once can save about up to 10% to (25% at the most) of the total cost of buying an already assembled PC system? \n\n### High end example:\n\nEg. (for a higher end gaming PC typically priced at $1700) https://unlabeledft.com/2019/10/16/the-ultimate-guide-for-the-%E2%80%8Bcheapest-way-to-build-custom-pc-in-singapore-sim-lim-vs-amazon-ryzen-build/ (saves 21% of the cost). For a higher base cost, the amount you save can be significant though.\n\n### Lower end:\n\nOn the lower end, the potential additional cost saving (however slight) comes more in terms of customisability to your exact needs which might not be available from some vendors( eg. deciding to exclude certain things you might not need at a given point of time, especially for things that can be bought LATER at no further cost. \n\nThese are:\n- Storage space: 240GB space may be more than enough for most general cases.\n- RAM: 8GB is MORE than good enough for most cases.\n\nEven for the GPU, A significant saving could exist in deciding to use a lower end GPU first that still meets one's requirement, especially if one has such a GPU lying have one lying around for free (ie. a spare unused one), etc. or get a CPU offer with onboard PPU that is good enough, so you can decide to buy a better GPU later when the need arises at no/little further cost. 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